{"id":42135,"date":"2017-02-26T15:20:31","date_gmt":"2017-02-26T09:50:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/globalpress.hinduismnow.org\/?p=42135"},"modified":"2017-02-26T15:20:31","modified_gmt":"2017-02-26T09:50:31","slug":"sastra-praman-apta-pramana-and-atma-pramana-a-dialogue-between-swami-nithyananda-and-rajiv-malhotra","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/globalpress-new.hinduismnow.org\/?p=42135","title":{"rendered":"Sastra Praman, Apta Pramana and Atma Pramana: A Dialogue between Swami Nithyananda and Rajiv Malhotra"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> Basically, Veda and \u0100gamas are considered as \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a. It is non-controversial. Anyone who is the follower of Sanatana Hindu Dharma, accepting the superiority, authority of the Vedagamas is the basic thing. And masters who accept the authority of the Vedagamas only can be called as Aptas. Anyone and everyone cannot be called as Aptas. And all their words cannot be taken as Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a. Masters who accept the authority of the Vedas, \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a, like Ramakrishna, Ramana Maharshi, those great beings, Pata\u00f1jali, Krishna, the beings, the great masters, exemplars who accept the authority of the Vedagamas are Aptas. Their input is very much needed because time to time they make the whole thing again alive.<br \/>\nThey bring the whole Sanatana Hindu Dharma as real in every new context. So, \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a are the authorities for Sanatana Hindu Dharma. <strong>Anybody who gets any Atma Pram\u0101\u1e47a, they have to acid wash their Atma Pram\u0101\u1e47awith \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a. <\/strong>Whatever stands that acid wash only should be shared with the world. See, many times, many people, they say, \u201cOh, it\u2019s my experience and I don&#8217;t need to be bothered about \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a.\u201d No. Many times, your own experience may be even good for you. I&#8217;m not saying you don&#8217;t have experience. It may be only good for you. If you want to teach it to the world, it should stand the scrutiny of \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a.<br \/>\nBecause sometimes you might have got the Satori without knowingly practicing vegetarian, but unknowingly you lived a vegetarian lifestyle, you got Satori. If you say, I will not refer the \u015a\u0101stras, you will not know vegetarianism is a prerequisite for Satori, you will not teach that to your next generation. Only if you refer the \u015a\u0101stras, if you refer the Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a and \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a, you will know, yes, vegetarianism is a basic requirement and I was practicing it without my knowledge.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> So, if I haven&#8217;t studied \u015a\u0101stra, but I somehow experienced something, I fully don&#8217;t understand why I experienced it. It\u2019s just coincidental also. It could be past life. It could be whatever. And so, it may not be fully responsible to go and teach other people.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> Yes. The adhikaratva of teaching comes only if you scrutinize all your experiences with \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a and your Atma Pram\u0101\u1e47a, your personal experience, stands the scrutiny of the \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> So, basically, what I understand is teachers \u2013and there are some of them, important ones\u2013who go around saying, I have this experience, I don&#8217;t believe in \u015a\u0101stra, it is my experience I\u2019m teaching you, what they&#8217;re really saying is, my Atma Pram\u0101\u1e47a is enough to teach you without reference to the \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47 or the Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a, which is dangerous part, which is very irresponsible.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> Not only irresponsible. Many time dangerous. See, there are some asanas, it should not be done by people who are drinking alcohol. There are some pranayamas, it should not be done people who are consuming non-veg. This guru himself, when he was practicing, he might have been a natural vegetarian and natural non-alcoholic\u2026<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> But did not know the cause-effect link.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> He did not know. That was also a reason why he got an experience.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> Right.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> So, when we do not read the clear signs, it is like a compounder becoming doctor. In Indian village, it happens all the time. Because he lived with the doctor, he slowly starts thinking. \u201cOh, for headache, black tablet. For stomach pain, yellow tablet. For knee pain, green tablet.\u201dAs long as the pharmaceutical companies don&#8217;t change the colour, things are okay.<br \/>\nBut what will happen if the company changes the colour. So many time, when we deny the authority of the \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a, we are behaving irresponsibly and it is dangerous, especially for the seekers and followers.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> Very good.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u> <\/strong>I always insist the seekers and followers, wherever you go, even if you go to an astrologer or a v\u0101stu consultant or yoga, anything spiritual, always find whether they have the adhikaratva to teach. Adhikaratva, authority to teach, comes only if they acid wash their experience, their knowledge, their understanding with the original \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> This is why I\u2019m very glad. Every time, we\u2019ve had a discussion, you\u2019ve said I&#8217;ll show you the exact original source and you\u2019re going to publish it in a book and give everybody a copy.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> Already, major things we have published. The remaining things are also ready, which is coming out, which is getting released and getting out. Whether the food you eat in our ashram or the dress you wear or jewelleries you are given or the way you are made to sit in mandala or the bhasma or the kumkum which we are giving or the rituals we are conducting or every process I&#8217;m doing or every concept I\u2019m explaining, I can give you \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a and my Atma Pram\u0101\u1e47a. I can make that as a Sakshi Pram\u0101\u1e47a for you.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> That\u2019s very important.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> I\u2019m very clear. And I also wanted to put this on record. There are many of my Atma Pram\u0101\u1e47as, I have not yet found \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a, so I am not revealing them, I&#8217;m just keeping them.\u00a0 Wait, let me only teach first whatever I can acid wash.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> Right.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> Whatever stands the scrutiny of \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a, let that be presented to the world first and made into Sakshi Pram\u0101\u1e47a.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> So, basically, your experience only should be taught if it is filtered through the texts.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u> Yes, acid washed.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> Yes, acid washed.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> I should use the word. That\u2019s the right word I\u2019ll use.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> Very tough.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> Acid washed by the \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a and Apta Pram\u0101\u1e47a.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Rajiv Malhotra:<\/u><\/strong> Yes.<br \/>\n<strong><u>Swami Nithyananda:<\/u><\/strong> It should stand the scrutiny of both. Only then, it should be shared with the world. That is the only non-dangerous safe path, I can tell you with all my integrity.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nClick <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ParamahamsaNithyananda\/\">Here<\/a> to Connect With Sri Nithyananda Swami on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ParamahamsaNithyananda\/\">Facebook<\/a>.<br \/>\nJoin Rajiv Malhotra for his <a href=\"http:\/\/facebook.com\/RajivMalhotra.Official\">FB LIVE<\/a> Broadcasts. You can follow Rajiv Malhotra on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RajivMessage\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/BreakingIndia\">You Tube Video<\/a>, and Rajiv\u2019s\u00a0discussion <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/RajivMalhotraDiscussion\/\">egroup.<\/a><br \/>\nAuthor&#8217;s email address:\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:Infinity.Foundation.India@gmail.com\">Infinity.Foundation.India@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Swami Nithyananda: Basically, Veda and \u0100gamas are considered as \u015a\u0101stra Pram\u0101\u1e47a. It is non-controversial. Anyone who is the follower of Sanatana Hindu Dharma, accepting the superiority, authority of the Vedagamas is the basic thing. And masters who accept the authority of the Vedagamas only can be called as Aptas. 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