{"id":80706,"date":"2016-02-08T09:02:18","date_gmt":"2016-02-08T09:02:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/globalpress.hinduismnow.org?p=900&amp;preview_id=900"},"modified":"2016-02-08T09:02:18","modified_gmt":"2016-02-08T09:02:18","slug":"what-was-it-that-drew-jobs-and-zuckerman-to-neem-karoli-baba-amitabha-pande-bharata-bharati","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/globalpress-new.hinduismnow.org\/?p=80706","title":{"rendered":"What was it that drew Jobs and Zuckerman to Neem Karoli Baba? \u2013 Amitabha Pande | Bharata Bharati"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Neem_Karoli_Baba\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-87005\" title=\"Neem Karoli Baba\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/neem-karoli-baba.jpg?w=460&amp;h=354\" alt=\"Neem Karoli Baba\" width=\"460\" height=\"354\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/in.linkedin.com\/pub\/amitabha-pande\/3\/808\/a84\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-86997 alignleft\" title=\"Amitabha Pande\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/amitabha-pande-e1444483065212.png?w=98&amp;h=110\" alt=\"Amitabha Pande\" width=\"98\" height=\"110\" \/><\/a>\u201cI had a wonderful, bantering, irreverent relationship with the baba. While his intuitive abilities and ability to read your mind were literally \u2018mind-blowing\u2019\u2014he could floor you completely by telling you exactly what you may have been thinking a moment ago, or a few hours ago or a few nights ago as though it was the most natural thing in the world to be a kind of benevolent thought-policeman\u2014he performed no sleight of hand tricks, or miracles; gave no sermons, expected nothing, accepted no gifts, and was sure to disappoint you if you went in search of magical solutions to your worldly\u2014or even other-worldly\u2014problems.\u201d \u2013\u00a0Amitabha Pande<\/h3>\n<p id=\"p_1\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.super-e-books.com\/facts-and-trivia-you-probably-did-not-know-about-americas-sweetheart-julia-roberts.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-87015\" title=\"Julia Roberts is a practising Hindu\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/julia-roberts-e1444524912128.jpg?w=195&amp;h=182\" alt=\"Julia Roberts\" width=\"195\" height=\"182\" \/><\/a>There is a modest complex of lime-washed buildings, with a modest temple, situated in a modest wooded valley on the banks of a modest stream in a modest part of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kumaon_division\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kumaon<\/a>, called Kainchi\u2014so called because of two scissor-like sharp hairpin bends on the road that bring you down to the riverside hamlet. The complex, a small ashram, now given the exalted name of <a href=\"http:\/\/maharajji.com\/Kainchi\/kainchi-ashram.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kainchi Dham<\/a>, is named after <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Neem_Karoli_Baba\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Neem Karoli<\/a> (or Neeb Karori) Baba who died in 1973. Although the baba was a nomad with no permanent base, Kainchi was the place where he spent a lot of time in the later part of his life.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_2\"><strong>The ashram has tried hard to preserve its modesty because unlike other ashrams, it is not a part of a religious chain store, nor part of a holy business empire. It does not offer magical mystery tours, or yoga camps or spiritual and religious instruction. It has no mission to accomplish, no overwhelming purpose to fulfil. It would like to stay modest, avoid the glare of publicity and continue, like a poem, to just \u201cbe\u201d. Much like the baba who inspired it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_3\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/serioussadhana.blogspot.in\/2013\/04\/hanuman-in-west-strange-saga.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-87016\" title=\"Bhagavan Das &amp; Ram Dass: Bhagvan Das is a bhajan singer, Ram Dass is quite a good talker.\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/baghwan-ram-das.jpg?w=195&amp;h=128\" alt=\"Bhagavan Das &amp; Ram Dass\" width=\"195\" height=\"128\" \/><\/a>Yet, every now and then someone discovers the connection between the Kainchi Ashram, the baba and some megastar of the Western world and suddenly all media wants to investigate why 42 years after the baba died, his intangible legacy still holds such sway. Four years ago, when Apple co-founder Steve Jobs died, the media discovered his Kainchi connection and then other names kept scuttling out\u2014Richard Alpert, the Harvard psychology professor who became Baba <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ramdass.org\/bio\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ram Das<\/a>, Kermit Michael Riggs (Baba <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhagavandas.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bhagavan Das<\/a>), Jeffrey Kagel (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.krishnadas.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Krishna Das<\/a>\u2014the kirtan man), <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Larry_Brilliant\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Larry Brilliant<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Julia_Roberts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Julia Roberts<\/a>\u2014all of whom owed some or all their inspiration to this modest place. And now it turns out that Facebook CEO <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mark_Zuckerberg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mark Zuckerberg<\/a> too was sent by his mentor <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Steve_Jobs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jobs<\/a> to Kainchi to find focus and purpose to his own business career.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_4\"><strong>While I certainly haven\u2019t met either Jobs or Julia Roberts (alas) or Zuckerberg and may have passingly encountered Alpert and Riggs between 1967 and 1973, I am glorying in my connection with all these people through Babaji (as we called him) whom I had known from my early childhood.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_5\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/news.biharprabha.com\/2011\/10\/surprising-about-steve-jobs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-87028\" title=\"Steve Jobs &amp; Steve Wozniak: Jobs did not meet Neem Karoli Baba as he came to India a year after the baba passed away.\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/steve-jobs-steve-wozniak.jpg?w=195&amp;h=145\" alt=\"Steve Jobs &amp; Steve Wozniak\" width=\"195\" height=\"145\" \/><\/a>I had a wonderful, bantering, irreverent relationship with the baba. While his intuitive abilities and ability to read your mind were literally \u201cmind-blowing\u201d (he could floor you completely by telling you exactly what you may have been thinking a moment ago, or a few hours ago or a few nights ago as though it was the most natural thing in the world to be a kind of benevolent thought-policeman), he performed no sleight of hand tricks, or miracles; gave no sermons, expected nothing, accepted no gifts, and was sure to disappoint you if you went in search of magical solutions to your worldly (or even other-worldly) problems. Your problems would occasionally get solved almost magically if you remembered him hard enough and sometimes he would look you meaningfully in the eye when you met him as though he knew you knew he knew.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_6\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.krishnadas.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-87020\" title=\"Krishna Das: He has become famous as a bhajan singer. \" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/krishna-das.jpg?w=195&amp;h=268\" alt=\"Krishna Das\" width=\"195\" height=\"268\" \/><\/a>He was nomadic with no possessions and no assets and no property. He seemed to have a horror of any kind of material possession and if you took him a basket of fruits or sweets as a gift he would immediately distribute everything to the assembled gathering treating you as a fielder engaged in catching practice. He carried nothing other than the bed sheet or blanket he was wrapped in. He spoke little, constantly muttering \u201cRam, Ram, Ram\u201d under his breath. He was often very restless and would just get up and leave a place and disappear, sometimes for months on end, never tried to give you <em>gyan<\/em>, never insisted on any particular code of behaviour, would sometimes just lock himself inside a room or go into a cave and not speak although his followers would think nothing of shouting at him to come out, would eat anything or not eat anything for days, had no fixed schedules, no particular discipline. He was completely unpredictable: would call you names and be very dismissive one day or make you sit next to him and look at you with such ineffable love that you had to melt on another day. He did not expect you to be religious or pious or believe in anything. He never sat in <em>pooja<\/em> or followed any devotional rituals, did not genuflect to a deity or visit a temple including the temples in his own ashram because he was in a sense beyond all this.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_7\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/ramdass\/shattering-my-perception-of-reality-how-dr-larry-brilliant-met-his-guru\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-87035\" title=\"Larry Brilliant with wife Girija at the Taj Mahal (with a photo of Neem Karoli Baba between them). Brilliant is a famous doctor who helped the WHO eradicate smallpox from the world. He is also on the Google board.\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/feldman_girija-larry_tajmahal-1973.jpg?w=195&amp;h=287\" alt=\"Larry Brilliant with wife Girija at the Taj\" width=\"195\" height=\"287\" \/><\/a>In the years when the hippy crowds first started gathering round him, he would sometimes ask me to be an interpreter. This led to very droll results. The admiring crowds of white Westerners in search of oriental mysticism and ancient wisdom would be looking out for deep meanings in his curt, non sequiturs and aphorisms, some of which were really made for no other reason except to break the mood of silent worshipful reverence which he found oppressive after a while. But most of these remarks had no hidden, deep meaning. He would, for example, ask me to tell the crowd that the \u201cmango is a unique fruit\u201d and I would do so. All the lissome, pyjama-clad, bra-less, diaphanous blouse-wearing, dewy-eyed, young things (and inside of me lust would rage) and their scruffy, long-haired, bearded partners with <em>jholas<\/em> would look up to me sitting beside the baba on his <em>takhat<\/em>, from their cross-legged positions on the floor with open-eyed wonder and expect me to explain the deeper meaning. The baba would then go on to ask me to tell them that \u201cthe mango is unique because it is the only fruit which you want to continue sucking even after you have sucked the flesh and the juice out of it\u201d and this would cause a lot of wonderment as they would keep asking me to interpret the wisdom in this remark and I would tell them, to their great disappointment and suspicion that it meant just that and nothing more. And the baba would find the whole thing very amusing. He had a really puckish, elf-like sense of humour.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"p_8\"><strong>What was it that drew all of us to him? I think it was the complete purity of an experience of love in its purest form\u2014selfless, undemanding, unrelated to any purpose or any material, emotional or spiritual transaction\u2014a truly liberating and exhilarating experience of a kind which I have never had with anyone else. Just that. \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyo.in\/lifestyle\/neeb-karori-baba-steve-jobs-mark-zuckerberg-hinduism-richard-alpert-julia-roberts-yoga\/story\/1\/6593.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">DailyO<\/a>, 4 October 2015<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-87030\" title=\"Mark Zuckerberg: He never met Neem Karoli but may have visited his samadhi shrine in Vrindavan.\" src=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.files.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/mark-zuckerberg.jpg?w=460&amp;h=345\" alt=\"Mark Zuckerberg\" width=\"460\" height=\"345\" \/><\/p>\n<div id=\"jp-post-flair\" class=\"sharedaddy sd-rating-enabled sd-like-enabled sd-sharing-enabled\">\n<div id=\"like-post-wrapper-9602723-86995-56b8597764ca9\" class=\"sharedaddy sd-block sd-like jetpack-likes-widget-wrapper jetpack-likes-widget-unloaded\" data-src=\"\/\/widgets.wp.com\/likes\/#blog_id=9602723&amp;post_id=86995&amp;origin=bharatabharati.wordpress.com&amp;obj_id=9602723-86995-56b8597764ca9\" data-name=\"like-post-frame-9602723-86995-56b8597764ca9\">\n<h3 class=\"sd-title\">Like this:<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"button\">Like<\/span> <span class=\"loading\">Loading&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3 class=\"jp-relatedposts-headline\"><em>Related<\/em><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"postinfo\">Filed under: <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/category\/hindu\/guru\/\" rel=\"category tag\">guru<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/category\/hinduism\/\" rel=\"category tag\">hinduism<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/category\/india\/\" rel=\"category tag\">india<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/category\/hindu\/saints\/\" rel=\"category tag\">saints<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/category\/spirituality\/\" rel=\"category tag\">spirituality<\/a> Tagged: | <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/himalayas\/\" rel=\"tag\">himalayas<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/hinduism\/\" rel=\"tag\">hinduism<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/julia-roberts\/\" rel=\"tag\">julia roberts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/mark-zuckerberg\/\" rel=\"tag\">mark zuckerberg<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/neem-karoli-baba\/\" rel=\"tag\">neem karoli baba<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/siddhas\/\" rel=\"tag\">siddhas<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/tag\/steve-jobs\/\" rel=\"tag\">steve jobs<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/11\/what-was-it-that-drew-jobs-and-zuckerman-to-neem-karoli-baba-amitabha-pande\/\">What was it that drew Jobs and Zuckerman to Neem Karoli Baba? \u2013 Amitabha Pande | Bharata Bharati<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/bharatabharati.wordpress.com\/2015\/10\/11\/what-was-it-that-drew-jobs-and-zuckerman-to-neem-karoli-baba-amitabha-pande\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">What was it that drew Jobs and Zuckerman to Neem Karoli Baba? \u2013 Amitabha Pande | Bharata Bharati<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cI had a wonderful, bantering, irreverent relationship with the baba. 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